Turn 2: Quintilis - December - 196 B.C.
Turn 2: Quintilis - December - 196 B.C.
Elections in July/Quintilis, any candidates should do their campaigns. New Consuls will take office in March, next year. This means the current Consuls will remain in place until sometime in Turn 3 when the clock strikes March.
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Re: Turn 2: Quintilis - December - 196 B.C.
To clear up what the Collegia are so there is no confusion going forward - When you buy a collegia, you are soliciting the service of 10 men to form what is effectively a guild that works for you. You might also designate that they are bakers, or fishermen, or construction workers, or any number of other guilds. If you control a big number of construction workers, and theres some construction going on in your neighborhood, you might extort them a bit, or if they dont pay, you might bash up men and break their construction. Nominally, Collegia are "workers unions" in their most cartoonish form.
These are 10 brutes, peasants, plebs, peons, the guys you see on COPS who think their great excuse of "these pants I am wearing dont belong to me" will get them out of a drug charge. There should be no expectation of privacy when you solicit their service and patronize them. If someone wants to figure it out and has an expert investigator trait, you are doubly fucked. The historical records suggests the use of the Collegia was actually the opposite, everyone knew who was who because it sent a message. Clodius' mob burning down Cicero's house, Milo's gangs going into open combat. It is a show of ostentatious power Of course things like "Dont break" will shield you from direct accusations if one of their members is caught and interrogated, but it wont protect you if you flash a huge stack of cash around to hire a great mass of hundreds of them at once. Remember that "dont break" is primarily meant for single retinue, conducting things in the shadows.
Furthermore, it is expected that the people who have the Labor Organizer are connected in with all of the guilds in some way in the same vein that a mafia boss would be. The mafia bosses generally know who all the players are in their world. The other families, the other threats, etc. If another family is making a big move, or suddenly a huge number of men are hired off the streets, or there's some conflict going on, there's a good chance the mafia boss will hear of it.
Lastly, it is not exactly historical for everyone to be fighting each other with Collegia in the streets, but I knew that going in. It is anachronistic insofar as it is much more akin to what happened during the last decades of the republic than what happened around this time. I consciously chose to include the units in the game though, to allow people to do it if they wish. You must understand however the nuance of the situation. The Senate is very conservative, there are no populist factions, and there historically was none until the Gracchi come around. Conservatism is the best way to win yourself to the seat of Consul, because you are courting almost exclusively conservative voters. Collegia could help you if used effectively, it has a place, but there are numerous, many many ways to gain power without hiring a single unit of them.
These are 10 brutes, peasants, plebs, peons, the guys you see on COPS who think their great excuse of "these pants I am wearing dont belong to me" will get them out of a drug charge. There should be no expectation of privacy when you solicit their service and patronize them. If someone wants to figure it out and has an expert investigator trait, you are doubly fucked. The historical records suggests the use of the Collegia was actually the opposite, everyone knew who was who because it sent a message. Clodius' mob burning down Cicero's house, Milo's gangs going into open combat. It is a show of ostentatious power Of course things like "Dont break" will shield you from direct accusations if one of their members is caught and interrogated, but it wont protect you if you flash a huge stack of cash around to hire a great mass of hundreds of them at once. Remember that "dont break" is primarily meant for single retinue, conducting things in the shadows.
Furthermore, it is expected that the people who have the Labor Organizer are connected in with all of the guilds in some way in the same vein that a mafia boss would be. The mafia bosses generally know who all the players are in their world. The other families, the other threats, etc. If another family is making a big move, or suddenly a huge number of men are hired off the streets, or there's some conflict going on, there's a good chance the mafia boss will hear of it.
Lastly, it is not exactly historical for everyone to be fighting each other with Collegia in the streets, but I knew that going in. It is anachronistic insofar as it is much more akin to what happened during the last decades of the republic than what happened around this time. I consciously chose to include the units in the game though, to allow people to do it if they wish. You must understand however the nuance of the situation. The Senate is very conservative, there are no populist factions, and there historically was none until the Gracchi come around. Conservatism is the best way to win yourself to the seat of Consul, because you are courting almost exclusively conservative voters. Collegia could help you if used effectively, it has a place, but there are numerous, many many ways to gain power without hiring a single unit of them.